Interesting take. I think the question should be: how much of a season are you will to risk / write off? Does an extra 5 games leave too much to do? Do the potential negative effects of further loses or squad disharmony outweigh a wait and see…
Yup. This is a good point and a discussion I've been having. I would say that, given the results of the relegated sides so far, we're entitled to give him a bit more time than if, say, they'd all won 3 out of 3.
We need to remember that changling manager mid-season comes with its own risks and disruption.
If we do so, who will it be, is someone actually available (well I guess Chris is!), and can we be sure that they will do a better job? We can't, can we?
Personally I find it bizarre that we'd draw conclusions on Sellès, let alone gamble on another manager, so quickly.
Like it or not, we have to *know* he is not the right manager to get rid of him, and despite the emotional calls for Sellès out, I don't believe anyone can genuinely be certain of that yet.
5 games after transfers close seems a minimum for me, unless it is obvious he has lost the dressing room (and there are no clear signs of that).
At this stage, I find it equally possible to argue that his project is getting started and he hasn't had the players needed to be competitive (and that Souza in particular has been a huge loss), as to argue that things are not working and he has made mistakes. That balance needs to shift significantly for us to give him the elbow I think.
To be honest I also think that when we hear doom, gloom and frustration, we are hearing from a vocal minority. The quieter majority of fans I speak to are more patient than that, and see positives that could be green shoots, but perhaps I'm in a bubble!
The cat analogy is very apt: the owners have deposited a steaming pile of excrement on our kitchen floor and lazily flicked litter over it with a paw (the defensive signings) but it’s still stinking the place out.
Meanwhile Selles is on the living room sharpening his claws on our new sofa … actually I don’t know when I am going to with this, and I am just describing what cats do.
Interesting take. I think the question should be: how much of a season are you will to risk / write off? Does an extra 5 games leave too much to do? Do the potential negative effects of further loses or squad disharmony outweigh a wait and see…
Yup. This is a good point and a discussion I've been having. I would say that, given the results of the relegated sides so far, we're entitled to give him a bit more time than if, say, they'd all won 3 out of 3.
We need to remember that changling manager mid-season comes with its own risks and disruption.
If we do so, who will it be, is someone actually available (well I guess Chris is!), and can we be sure that they will do a better job? We can't, can we?
Personally I find it bizarre that we'd draw conclusions on Sellès, let alone gamble on another manager, so quickly.
Like it or not, we have to *know* he is not the right manager to get rid of him, and despite the emotional calls for Sellès out, I don't believe anyone can genuinely be certain of that yet.
5 games after transfers close seems a minimum for me, unless it is obvious he has lost the dressing room (and there are no clear signs of that).
At this stage, I find it equally possible to argue that his project is getting started and he hasn't had the players needed to be competitive (and that Souza in particular has been a huge loss), as to argue that things are not working and he has made mistakes. That balance needs to shift significantly for us to give him the elbow I think.
To be honest I also think that when we hear doom, gloom and frustration, we are hearing from a vocal minority. The quieter majority of fans I speak to are more patient than that, and see positives that could be green shoots, but perhaps I'm in a bubble!
Agree with a lot of that Andy!
The cat analogy is very apt: the owners have deposited a steaming pile of excrement on our kitchen floor and lazily flicked litter over it with a paw (the defensive signings) but it’s still stinking the place out.
Meanwhile Selles is on the living room sharpening his claws on our new sofa … actually I don’t know when I am going to with this, and I am just describing what cats do.